Nokia N95

markvvoc · #41 02-29-2008, 12:15 PM

small update re symbian guys

OPEN SIGNED ONLINE BETA AVAILABILITY
For developers without a Publisher ID, we will commence roll-out the Beta version of Open Signed Online at the beginning of next week.

As demand is currently higher than the PKI signing capacity, you may experience some restrictions on availability. We are in the process of adding new PKI signing hardware to the signing service to increase signing capacity (but this will take several weeks to configure)

As outlined below there is a maximum number of requests that we can service each hour which limits the number of users that can request at one time.

Open Signed Online Beta will be available next week with the following restrictions:

The Open Signed Online process is fully described here
During initial stages of the Open Signed Online beta, the service may only be available from 0900-1500 GMT (UK time) Monday-Friday.
Until capacity is increased with additional servers, there is a maximum number of requests that can be serviced each hour, if there is excessive demand (which is expected), some users may find Open Signed Online beta is not available.
As for any beta, there may be issues that impact the performance and/or functionality of the service. Such problems may result in the service being taken off-line at short notice and/or for extended periods.
Note: Open Signed Online does not allow you to sign a SIS that uses a UID from the "Protected Range", unless the email address you use for Open Signed Online MATCHES the email address of the account which owns/created the UID.
If you attempt to sign the same SIS file in rapid succession, the service you receive will proportionally slow down. This is to provide fair access to all.
Installation of the signed SIS file will be restricted to a single IMEI (i.e. mobile phone) that you enter and valid for 36 months.
SIS files that have been Open Signed will present a notification upon installation that the SIS file is intended for development purposes only.
SIS files can be signed for all Platform Security Capabilities except CommDD, MultimediaDD, NetworkControl, DiskAdmin, DRM, AllFiles, TCB.

sp00k · #42 02-29-2008, 12:38 PM

From reading their announcement it would seem that developer certificates that can be used to sign ANY unsigned app, are no longer available and that only individual apps will be able to be signed to a specific IMEI... That's not good!

markvvoc · #43 02-29-2008, 12:48 PM

i was lucky and got my signed certificate before all this, so looks like ill be able to use the same certificate indefinetly :)

sp00k · #44 02-29-2008, 01:19 PM

Not exactly indefinitely, a maximum of three years if you keep the same phone... :)

PieOPah · #45 02-29-2008, 02:13 PM

If I can get a cert to sign a single app I will be happy. I don't have many apps that need signing in general. In fact currently just the one. Just gutted that it went down the day I tried to sign it and I haven't been able to do anything since :(

Authrom · #46 02-29-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp00k

From reading their announcement it would seem that developer certificates that can be used to sign ANY unsigned app, are no longer available and that only individual apps will be able to be signed to a specific IMEI... That's not good!

So what you are saying is the certs to sign for everyones phone is gone? Instead they have replaced it with certs so you can only sign to a specific phone, but you can use that one a unlimited amount of times until it runs out correct? Or are they saying you can sign the same app to the same phone unlimited amount of times, but you can only use it for that app?

Sorry if its not clear..but I am a bit peeved and confused as I just got this phone and I cant even use 3rd party apps. I used to have a windows mobile phone so I was used to being able to use programs and edit so many things to customise your phone, but now I am stuck having to deal with this...and its a bit ridiclous.

Mr G · #47 02-29-2008, 03:25 PM

What that says is what it says mate in a nutshell......my cert and key file will last me 3 years and is linked to the IMEI of my N82,i can sign ANY app with those but that app will only work on my N82
.If i get another phone then i wont be able to use that cert and key,obviously.

And your not the only one who's peeved off about the situation,there are thousands if not millions in the same boat as you.

sp00k · #48 02-29-2008, 03:26 PM

Authrom... LOL! None of the above... Previously you could obtain a 'Developer Certificate' which, although it was not intended for that purpose, enabled non-developers to sign any unsigned application for use on their own phone only, as it was locked to the IMEI number. This lasted for three years.

NOW it seems that each individual app needs to be signed to your phone, one at a time, through Symbiansigned, again locked to a single IMEI, if I read the announcement correctly.

And yes, I too came from WM and I find the Nokia security lock-down a darned nuisance, I was used to being able to alter the WM registry and make the phone do almost anything I wanted! :(

Sexyback · #49 02-29-2008, 03:32 PM

I'm sorry, I'm a lil scoobied here. In plain Sandi-language, this means we wont ever be able to do this again?

I'm lost. Sorry for being a pain.

Sexyback · #50 02-29-2008, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Authrom

Sorry if its not clear..but I am a bit peeved and confused as I just got this phone and I cant even use 3rd party apps. I used to have a windows mobile phone so I was used to being able to use programs and edit so many things to customise your phone, but now I am stuck having to deal with this...and its a bit ridiclous.

Tell me about it, i will give up this phone if we're this stuck!