Nokia Software Updater - Rejects all handsets that have NSS changed Product codes

[jkoppee]

Originally Posted by Steven_Smith

You say it will be done by the hacker types, however this takes a whole new type of hacker. The symbian hackers probably won't stand a chance at it. This sort of thing requires the use of port scanners and packet monitoring, if someone can figure out the packet which is sent between the NSU and the servers they should be able to create a program to catch it and then send a different one which will update the phone.

NEVER underestimate the power of large numbers of computer geeks that all want the same thing

all you need to do is tell them they CAN'T do it and it will be done

[fldude99]

There is no doubt that NSU knows which prod code was used for the most recent update on your device evidently. When I upgraded to V20 I changed code to EURO since it was taking forever to be released to the NA code. I then changed it back to the NA code after upgrading, although I don't see any difference in how the handset functions on either code. Now I get the error msg on NSU, but if I change to the EURO code it tells me V21 is available (which I'm not interested in anyway). So GSI is correct in his original assertion IMO. Doesn't really matter now but may with a new handset down the road

Update: I suggested this same thing on the Nokia forum..guess what? I got banned the next day! lol

[AngusG]

Originally Posted by fldude99

There is no doubt that NSU knows which prod code was used for the most recent update on your device evidently. When I upgraded to V20 I changed code to EURO since it was taking forever to be released to the NA code. I then changed it back to the NA code after upgrading, although I don't see any difference in how the handset functions on either code. Now I get the error msg on NSU, but if I change to the EURO code it tells me V21 is available (which I'm not interested in anyway). So GSI is correct in his original assertion IMO. Doesn't really matter now but may with a new handset down the road

Update: I suggested this same thing on the Nokia forum..guess what? I got banned the next day! lol

It may not matter now, but if Nokia decide to filter out and 'blacklist' IMEIs that don't match up with their original product codes, it would.. They could even brick your phone - iPhone style

Down the track they could also implement a system that checks against the IMEI rather than the product code..

[Logan]

Originally Posted by jkoppee

NEVER underestimate the power of large numbers of computer geeks that all want the same thing

all you need to do is tell them they CAN'T do it and it will be done

LOL sorry for going OT but this had me in stitches

[mrbob2]

I think computer geeks are wonderful, undervalued individuals.

They devote large chunks of thier life fiddling with code to make our lives better.

If there are any really clever types reading this, i hope you can solve this potential problem we may be facing.

I guess what we need is before updating to a new (if one comes out) firmware, is someone who can test it out for us. I followed this guide on here and changed mine to the euro sand 1 code. I guess thouands of others have done the same. So if people start posting that it kills your phone, at least some of us will heed the warning.

[Wira_lover]

Dudes now im freaked out! im new to all this,im not expert and i know next to nothing on computers/smartphones,this phone is my 1st ever highly advanced gadget in my entire life ! I bought the original set ! 2 months old ! Computer geeks really earned my respect,ive been browsing forums past couple of month relating my phone apps and gadgets , u guys are GOD ! In fact , i just tried updating my v20 n95,and it says There no update available,after changing the code by one of ur wonderful forumers help ! It manage to detect the update.But one dude said to change it back to its original code,so tht if i were to visit the nokia dealer for any warranty claims *wish i pray i never have to do* they wont be able to know ive messed around with it...Is this true ?

[AngusG]

Originally Posted by Wira_lover

Dudes now im freaked out! im new to all this,im not expert and i know next to nothing on computers/smartphones,this phone is my 1st ever highly advanced gadget in my entire life ! I bought the original set ! 2 months old ! Computer geeks really earned my respect,ive been browsing forums past couple of month relating my phone apps and gadgets , u guys are GOD ! In fact , i just tried updating my v20 n95,and it says There no update available,after changing the code by one of ur wonderful forumers help ! It manage to detect the update.But one dude said to change it back to its original code,so tht if i were to visit the nokia dealer for any warranty claims *wish i pray i never have to do* they wont be able to know ive messed around with it...Is this true ?

Don't panic until it actually happens dude..

[Steven_Smith]

Does anyone know what port the NSU works on? IF they do packet scanners are readily available I would love to see what it is sending, product code wise :P

[Wira_lover]

Originally Posted by AngusG

Don't panic until it actually happens dude..

bUT dude,what about the warranty part , would the authorised dealers know tht i messed around with my product code eventhough ive changed it back to its original .? IFFFF i have to send my phone for any warranty claims...

[AngusG]

Originally Posted by Steven_Smith

Does anyone know what port the NSU works on? IF they do packet scanners are readily available I would love to see what it is sending, product code wise :P

Good luck with that dude, my guess is port 80..

Originally Posted by Wira_lover

bUT dude,what about the warranty part , would the authorised dealers know tht i messed around with my product code eventhough ive changed it back to its original .? IFFFF i have to send my phone for any warranty claims...

Read sp00k's reply, yes they can, if you've changed the product code, and then used Nokia Software Updater, there's a mark against your phone's IMEI that says 'There was a time when this phone was set to not the original product code'