Nokia Software Updater - Rejects all handsets that have NSS changed Product codes

[sp00k]

To dispel any doubt about the information that Nokia holds re: your handset... Once you connect to their servers by using the Software Updater program, note that the altered product code is listed!... The IMEI has been altered to protect the innocent... Me! ;)

Serial number:
352255011299812
Warranty:
YES
Care Services:

Warranty Class:
SHIPMENT + 25 MONTHS
Product Type:
RM-159
Handset:
N95
Product Code:
0547686
Start of Warranty:
15-05-2007
End of Warranty:
15-06-2009
Ship-to Country:
GB-UNITED KINGDOM
Factory SimLock:
N
27 Nov 2007 03:31:27 Nokia Software Updater - NSU Successful update Firmware update successful (46) 12.0.013 20.0.015 0536062

Note the product code change that's recorded... Even though I changed it back after the upgrade... It also throws up a warning flag to draw attention to this change.

[mrbob2]

MM so does this mean we all could have problems updating in the future? either not allowed or if nokia decieded to brick our phones?

ouch

[AngusG]

Originally Posted by mrbob2

MM so does this mean we all could have problems updating in the future? either not allowed or if nokia decieded to brick our phones?

ouch

correct....

[fldude99]

Originally Posted by sp00k

To dispel any doubt about the information that Nokia holds re: your handset... Once you connect to their servers by using the Software Updater program, note that the altered product code is listed!... The IMEI has been altered to protect the innocent... Me! ;)


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Spook: How did you get that info for your handset? For those buying a handset second hand where the former owner has changed prod code back to the original after updating...I could see a problem if one doesn't know which code was used to upgrade-like finding a needle in the haystack with all the prod codes available.

[AngusG]

Originally Posted by fldude99

Spook: How did you get that info for your handset? For those buying a handset second hand where the former owner has changed prod code back to the original after updating...I could see a problem if one doesn't know which code was used to upgrade-like finding a needle in the haystack with all the prod codes available.

The original product code's printed under the battery near the sim card holder

[fldude99]

Originally Posted by AngusG

The original product code's printed under the battery near the sim card holder

Maybe I didn't phrase the question correctly...what one would have to know, is which prod code was used to upgrade if it was chgd back to the original, afterwards. That would be crucial, if NSU won't recognize the original any longer

[AngusG]

Ahhh gotcha... to be honest I don't think it would matter.. I think it'd check against the original product code..

[fldude99]

Originally Posted by AngusG

Ahhh gotcha... to be honest I don't think it would matter.. I think it'd check against the original product code..

Not in my case. When NSU cks for an upgrade on the original code it give the connection error. When changing code to the one I used to upgrade to V20, it gives me the option to upgrade to V21. So that pretty much says that NSU only recognizes the prod code that was used during the prior upgrade it seems.

[sp00k]

Originally Posted by fldude99

How did you get that info for your handset? For those buying a handset second hand where the former owner has changed prod code back to the original after updating...I could see a problem if one doesn't know which code was used to upgrade-like finding a needle in the haystack with all the prod codes available.

fldude99... The list I posted is the info available to NSC's.

As an aside... From that, it's obvious that when you connect to the Nokia Updater, your phone is scanned... What other data is gleaned from these scans I wonder?

This means that updating the firmware using NSU enables Nokia to put in whatever obstacles to updating to non-authorised firmware that it wishes.

Is there a way of installing firmware without connecting to the Nokia servers? If so, Nokia bars to certain firmware will be totally ineffective and we'll be able to modify OUR OWN handsets without any restrictions!

Footnote... I looked into this some time back and according to what I read, at some stage during the NSU upgrade, the firmware to be installed is downloaded to the PC, installed to the phone and then erased. Whilst this firmware is obviously copyrighted to Nokia and the distribution of it would be copyright-infringement, if the OP is correct, then I believe that there may be said to be some justification in attempting to by-pass such restrictions.

[fldude99]

Interesting goings on with this "new" info....Something to know for future upgrades and handsets