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Old 03-24-2007, 10:14 AM
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TruPhone has a good diagram of how SIP works (SIP being the standard on how to make calls "over" the internet)



The basic premise is that if you are going to do a phone call from say the UK to the USA you:

* Start the call in the UK
* Get to a SIP router in the UK
* Send via SIP over the internet
* Send the call from a SIP router in the States to the end recipient

Doing this you can see that you would pay a local rate call in the UK and a local rate call in the States, with the internet handling the call inbetween.
As 2xlocal calls is usually cheaper than 1 international call its an attractive way to ring people.

As you can also tell, it should be very rare that doing a UK to UK call would work out cheaper over SIP unless you are using a transport mechanism that costs lots of money (eg. standard mobile rate to a land line @ 25p per minute)
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:19 AM
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we do need to figure this out... P2p stands for peer to peer and is a type of file sharing program like limewire where a user sends a file directly to another user. My understanding of the fring program after carefull inspection of their diagram is that it works over both wifi and data, is free for both, but can only be used to contact other fring users or voip users with the programs they list( skype etc)...but that could be wrong, so lets wait snd see what pseaudofinn finds out.
That was my first thought but it appears it does do SIP as well which the N95 has support for built in btw

Another good feature of the N95 it appears is that you can tell it what order to make calls in so SIP first, 3G second, GSM third etc
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:20 AM
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All About Symbian answer some SIP/VOIP questions as well here:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/featu...s_answered.php
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this stuff is complicated. maybe what im looking for - being able to make a free call over wifi to real phones - just doesn't exist. I mean, if I had to pay a small yearly fee for something like skypeout, i wouldn't find, so hopefull theyll start making skype for mobiles.
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Yes, like mariokarter said, the main question here is:

"With the N95, will we be able to make free calls over wi-fi to other phones and land lines?" (local or not)
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:22 PM
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You will never be able to make free calls like that, what you can do is use a SIP service to get very cheap calls.
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Back on topic, these two apps look great, they were mentioned in another topic on this forum, but I thought they should be here also:

They are both remote media access programs, for streaming media from your home PC to your phone, personally cant wait get my wi-fi enabled phone and get involved in these:

TVersity: http://www.tversity.com/home

ORB: http://www.orb.com/

I havent used either but people who have say they are cooool. 8)
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Old 03-30-2007, 05:43 PM
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Should truephone be added to the list?
http://www.truphone.com/welcome.tru
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Something similar to fring or truphone:

www.WiFiMobile.com making mobile VOIP a reality

- Works with all Nokia Nseries and Eseries phones
- Call other VOIP phones anywhere in the world for free
- Call landlines and mobiles at greatly discounted prices
- Use your mobile phone as an extension to your company PBX
- Free download - get going instantly

I didn't try it YET. I was gonna and I registered but they didn't send me any sms yet to download the software.
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ORB: http://www.orb.com/
Orb is really cool. I really wanted to use this on my n95 so I could play any music from my home media server.

However.. t-mobile seems to have major problems with streaming at the moment so no one can get it working.
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